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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
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البحريه تحتاج قطع صغيره سريعة الحركه مسلحه تسليح جيد
مع وهذا الاهم
طيران بحري قوي وبعدد اكثر
لتستطيع مقابلة الزوارق الايرانيه التي تعتمد الاغراق العددي
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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة MO777MO77 مشاهدة المشاركةاحد يعطينا الزبدة من السالفه؟!!
سواء كان على مستوى الفرقاطة او كان على مستوى الزوارق او حتى على مستوى طائرات الدورية الساحلية
فيه شيء بالموضوع ..... لذلك ننتظر
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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
احد يعطينا الزبدة من السالفه؟!!
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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
شباب كلام موقع defensenews
كلام غريب جدا فشركة لوكهيد مارتن عندما صممت النسخة ذات ازاحة 3500 طن قامت بوضع عليها 32 خلية والصور والنموذج لتلك السفينة يقول عكس ذلك فلماذا تطلب السعودية وضع 16 خلية فقط والسفينة تستطيع ان تحمل 32 خلية اطلاق عامودى ! وعلى الاغلب ان الموقع قال ذلك عندما شاهد 16 منصة اطلاق عامودى فى الجانب الايمن او الايسر فقط فممكن ان يكون المصدر قد اخطا بالفعل وحتى النسخة ذات ازاحة 3500 طن هى ليست النسخة الاكبر من سفن MCS او SCS وانا لم اقول تلك المعلومات لكم من قبل ! ولكن الان بعد كلام ذلك الموقع قررت ان اقولها لكم هناك نسخة بالفعل طولها يصل الى 150 متر ! وبازاحة تصل الى 6000 طن ! والسفينة التى عليها رقم 150 متر هذه هى النسخة ويتضح لنا فى الصورة ان تلك النسخة تمتلك 32 منصة اطلاق عامودى خلفية مع 16 منصة اطلاق عامودى امامية فمجموع تلك المنصات فى تلك النسخة يصل الى 48 منصة ! اطلاق عامودى وهى قادرة على اطلاق صواريخ SM-6 وصواريخ SM-3 وكذلك هناك مكان فارغ كبير بها يمكن وضع اى نظام للدفاع الجوى قصير المدى غير الرام مثل مدافع الليزر والمدافع الكهرومغناطيسية وكذلك يمكن اضافة عليها رادارات متنوعة تعمل على اكثر من تردد وطبعا تلك السفينة تستطيع ان تحمل الرادار الاكبر AN/SPY-1D فهى شبيهة بالفرقاطة F100 class كثيرا سواء من عدد المنصات او فى الازاحة او فى الطول
MCS’ hull is proven from 67 meters to 150
meters at various displacements from 1,000
tons to 6,000 tons. The adaptable design of
MCS allows for inclusion of partner navy-
designated zone placements, sensors, and
weapons systems, e.g., vertical launchers
and / or surface-to-surface missile canisters,
without major structural impact
لاحظوا جيدا الارقام ستجدوا النسخة الاكبر برقم 150 وهنا المقصود الطول
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الحين المفاوضين واللي يختارون القطع
لهم اشخاص محددين ومتخصصين في هذه الوظيفة والا هم من عامة العسكر ؟
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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
نرسل لهم بعثة من الجوية عشان يتعلمون
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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
اولا طول الزوارق من 45 الی 40 متر
يعني انسوا الامباسدور لان طولة 60 متر
الاربع فرقاطات تملك 16 قاذف فقط
وفوقها sm2 !!
اتمنی انكم تعطوني خبر وتقولون
بان القاذف الواحد يستوعب اثنين من هالصاوريخ
ارجوووكم قولوا كذا !
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تحطمت
كنت اظن واظن ولكن ..!
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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة أبو جمان مشاهدة المشاركةA second letter of request (LoR) from the Saudi government detailing requirements for the Eastern Fleet replacement program was delivered to the US Navy in February, barely a month after an initial request was sent, according to sources here at the International Defence Exposition show.The move highlights a heightened pace in developments related to the Saudi Naval Expansion Program, a project that could be worth as much as US $16 billion.Competition has been fierce between French suppliers, who hold the preponderance of contracts in support of Saudi Arabia's western, or Red Sea fleet, and the US. Transmission of the LoRs to the US Navy's International Program Office could indicate the Saudis are leaning strongly toward a US buy.If so, the Eastern Fleet plan also offers the strongest potential case yet for the first foreign sale of a version of the US Navy's littoral combat ship (LCS).The February LoR offered a few more details and clarified some issues from the January document, sources said. As before, the Saudis did not list specific ship designs, but rather gave guidelines for their requirements. Among the highlights:
- Four 3,500-ton "frigate-like warships" capable of anti-air warfare, armed with an eight-to-16-cell vertical launch system (VLS) capable of launching Standard SM-2 missiles; fitted with an "Aegis or like" combat system using "SPY-1F or similar" radars; able to operate Sikorsky MH-60R helicopters; with a speed of 35 knots.
- Six 2,500-ton warships with combat systems compatible with the frigates, able to operate MH-60R helos.
- 20 to 24 fast patrol vessels about 40 to 45 meters long, powered by twin diesels.
- 10 "maritime helicopters" with characteristics identical to the MH-60R.
- Three maritime patrol aircraft for coastal surveillance.
- 30 to 50 UAVs, some for maritime use, some to be shore-based.
The Saudis are said to be not interested in developing new designs, but rather want "proven capability" in their purchases.Some reports indicated the Saudis want the shipbuilder to be the prime contractor for the program, but not to exclude Lockheed Martin, prime contractor for the Freedom-class LCS built at Fincantieri Marinette Marine. Such a requirement, however, is not in the LoR.Lockheed Martin and Austal USA have offered versions of their littoral combat ships fitted with VLS and phased-array radars, including the SPY-1F, both for export and most recently for the US Navy's Small Surface Combatant (SSC) competition conducted in 2014. In December, the US Navy chose to forgo Aegis and VLS on its SSCs, now designated as frigates.Other than the LCS/SSC/frigate designs, there are no other US designs in production that would fit the 3,500-ton parameters of the Saudi frigate.The Saudis have long been said to be interested in the Lockheed LCS fitted with Aegis, SPY-1F and VLS, and the details in the LoR closely match characteristics of Lockheed's Multi-Mission Surface Combatant Ship (SCS) using the same 118-meter-long hull as that on current LCSs for the US Navy. The Saudis are widely reported not to be so interested in the ship's modular capabilities, although a reduced version of the mission bay features of the ships is expected to be part of the design.It is not clear what ships the Saudis might have in mind for the 2,500-ton warships, although a stripped down LCS might fit those parameters. There is some thought, sources said, that the ships could be versions of the LCS but without Aegis. Earlier reports indicated the Saudis were asking for 12 of these ships, but those reports were either wrong or the number has been modified.It is also not clear what the fast patrol craft could be. The US Navy has begun buying the Mark VI patrol boat, a craft that fits many of the Saudi parameters, but those craft are distinctly smaller, at 25 meters.Another question mark is the maritime patrol aircraft. The Saudis may be interested in the Boeing P-8A Poseidon now being fielded by the US Navy, or some other aircraft.Driving the apparent sense of urgency in Saudi Arabia, sources said, is the approval of $3.5 billion for the Eastern Fleet in the 2015 defense budget. The Saudis reportedly wish to decide on the four frigates this year and use the 2015 allocation as payment; the rest of the program would follow in subsequent years.The initial LoR was transmitted to the US shortly before the Jan. 23 death of the Saudi monarch, King Abdullah. His successor, King Salman, however, was the defense minister at the time of the LoR's transmission, and sources here said the new regime continues to strongly favor the Eastern Fleet plan.It is not clear from the LoR where the ships are expected to be built, although the frigates would likely be built in the US.The only other significant US design built in recent years for a foreign customer is the 500-ton Ambassador Mark III class of missile corvettes recently completed for Eqypt. Those four ships, intended to defend the Suez Canal, were built by VT Halter Marine in Pascagoula, Mississippi, but their details don't seem to fit the Saudi LoR.
ست سفن حربية 2،500 طن مع الأنظمة القتالية متوافقة مع فرقاطات، قادرة على العمل MH-60R helos.
20 إلى 24 زوارق دورية سريعة حول 40-45 مترا، والمدعوم من الديزل التوأم.
10 "المروحيات البحرية" ؟؟ مع خصائص مماثلة إلى MH-60R.
ثلاث طائرات للدوريات البحرية لمراقبة السواحل.
30 إلى 50 الطائرات بدون طيار، وبعض للاستخدام البحري، ليكون بعض على الشاطئ.
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A second letter of request (LoR) from the Saudi government detailing requirements for the Eastern Fleet replacement program was delivered to the US Navy in February, barely a month after an initial request was sent, according to sources here at the International Defence Exposition show.The move highlights a heightened pace in developments related to the Saudi Naval Expansion Program, a project that could be worth as much as US $16 billion.Competition has been fierce between French suppliers, who hold the preponderance of contracts in support of Saudi Arabia's western, or Red Sea fleet, and the US. Transmission of the LoRs to the US Navy's International Program Office could indicate the Saudis are leaning strongly toward a US buy.If so, the Eastern Fleet plan also offers the strongest potential case yet for the first foreign sale of a version of the US Navy's littoral combat ship (LCS).The February LoR offered a few more details and clarified some issues from the January document, sources said. As before, the Saudis did not list specific ship designs, but rather gave guidelines for their requirements. Among the highlights:- Four 3,500-ton "frigate-like warships" capable of anti-air warfare, armed with an eight-to-16-cell vertical launch system (VLS) capable of launching Standard SM-2 missiles; fitted with an "Aegis or like" combat system using "SPY-1F or similar" radars; able to operate Sikorsky MH-60R helicopters; with a speed of 35 knots.
- Six 2,500-ton warships with combat systems compatible with the frigates, able to operate MH-60R helos.
- 20 to 24 fast patrol vessels about 40 to 45 meters long, powered by twin diesels.
- 10 "maritime helicopters" with characteristics identical to the MH-60R.
- Three maritime patrol aircraft for coastal surveillance.
- 30 to 50 UAVs, some for maritime use, some to be shore-based.
The Saudis are said to be not interested in developing new designs, but rather want "proven capability" in their purchases.Some reports indicated the Saudis want the shipbuilder to be the prime contractor for the program, but not to exclude Lockheed Martin, prime contractor for the Freedom-class LCS built at Fincantieri Marinette Marine. Such a requirement, however, is not in the LoR.Lockheed Martin and Austal USA have offered versions of their littoral combat ships fitted with VLS and phased-array radars, including the SPY-1F, both for export and most recently for the US Navy's Small Surface Combatant (SSC) competition conducted in 2014. In December, the US Navy chose to forgo Aegis and VLS on its SSCs, now designated as frigates.Other than the LCS/SSC/frigate designs, there are no other US designs in production that would fit the 3,500-ton parameters of the Saudi frigate.The Saudis have long been said to be interested in the Lockheed LCS fitted with Aegis, SPY-1F and VLS, and the details in the LoR closely match characteristics of Lockheed's Multi-Mission Surface Combatant Ship (SCS) using the same 118-meter-long hull as that on current LCSs for the US Navy. The Saudis are widely reported not to be so interested in the ship's modular capabilities, although a reduced version of the mission bay features of the ships is expected to be part of the design.It is not clear what ships the Saudis might have in mind for the 2,500-ton warships, although a stripped down LCS might fit those parameters. There is some thought, sources said, that the ships could be versions of the LCS but without Aegis. Earlier reports indicated the Saudis were asking for 12 of these ships, but those reports were either wrong or the number has been modified.It is also not clear what the fast patrol craft could be. The US Navy has begun buying the Mark VI patrol boat, a craft that fits many of the Saudi parameters, but those craft are distinctly smaller, at 25 meters.Another question mark is the maritime patrol aircraft. The Saudis may be interested in the Boeing P-8A Poseidon now being fielded by the US Navy, or some other aircraft.Driving the apparent sense of urgency in Saudi Arabia, sources said, is the approval of $3.5 billion for the Eastern Fleet in the 2015 defense budget. The Saudis reportedly wish to decide on the four frigates this year and use the 2015 allocation as payment; the rest of the program would follow in subsequent years.The initial LoR was transmitted to the US shortly before the Jan. 23 death of the Saudi monarch, King Abdullah. His successor, King Salman, however, was the defense minister at the time of the LoR's transmission, and sources here said the new regime continues to strongly favor the Eastern Fleet plan.It is not clear from the LoR where the ships are expected to be built, although the frigates would likely be built in the US.The only other significant US design built in recent years for a foreign customer is the 500-ton Ambassador Mark III class of missile corvettes recently completed for Eqypt. Those four ships, intended to defend the Suez Canal, were built by VT Halter Marine in Pascagoula, Mississippi, but their details don't seem to fit the Saudi LoR.
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المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة صالح ابو محمد مشاهدة المشاركةاعتذر على التاخير
نعم شرقي
PCG -616
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المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة بخروش بن علاس مشاهدة المشاركةأرحب يا صالح أثرك أسطول شرقي
نعم شرقي
PCG -616
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المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة أبو جمان مشاهدة المشاركةالصاروخ مخصص لتدمير الطائرات والصواريخ المضادة للسفن وصواريخ الكروز
فهل لدى هذه السفن ما يعوض وجوده خاصة انه يحمي السفن من الصواريخ المهاجمه
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رد: السعودية تحديث الاسطول الشرقي ب 16 سفينة حربية
المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة أبو جمان مشاهدة المشاركةالصاروخ مخصص لتدمير الطائرات والصواريخ المضادة للسفن وصواريخ الكروز
SM-6 has also been selected to fulfill the U.S. Navy's Sea-Based Terminal (SBT) role and will provide defense against ballistic missiles in their terminal phase of F Light, succeeding the SM-2 Blk IV missile.The initial version of he SBT, Increment 1, is to enter service around 2015, with a subsequent version, called Increment 2, to enter service around 2018
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