القوات الجوية تستعد للمشاركة في "العلم الأخضر" ببريطانيا

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الطائرات السعودية المشاركة في التمرين 4 تايفون و4 ترنيدو و9 c-130 و3 طائرات تزود بالوقود mrtt وطائرة سيسنا لنقل كبار الشخصيات

البريطانيين شاركوا ب7 ترنيدو و10 تايفون ,,,,,,,

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التايفون السعودية المشاركة في التمرين أحدث من التايفون البريطانية بإستثناء التايفون التي شاركت من السرب 29 البريطاني ,شاركت طائرتين تايفون ترانش ثالث !

اي طائرتين تقصد ؟ لان طائرات ترانش 3A لم تسلم ولم تدخل الخدمة بعد في اي دولة واول طائرة مقرر ان تسلم في اخر السنة هذه 2013 او بداية 2014 لسلاح الجو البريطاني

طائرات التايفون البريطانية المشاركة بالتمرين هي

السرب 29
ZJ815/BN (ترانش 1 بلوك 5) ثانئية المقاعد T3
ZK306/BT (ترانش 2 بلوك 8 بي) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZK328/BS (ترانش 2 بلوك 10) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZK379/BB (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) ثنائية المقاعد T3
ZK380/BG (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) ثنائية المقاعد T3

السرب 11
ZJ912/DR (ترانش 1 بلوك 5) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZJ931/DA (ترانش 1 بلوك 5) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZK305/DE (ترانش 2 بلوك 8 بي) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZK323/DN (ترانش 2 بلوك 10) احادية المقاعد FGR4

السرب 3
ZK309/QO-P (ترانش 2 بلوك 8 بي) احادية المقاعد FGR4


اما طائرات التايفون السعودية فهي (من السرب الثالث)

310 (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) احادية المقاعد FGR5
312 (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) احادية المقاعد FGR5
313 (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) احادية المقاعد FGR5
322 (ترانش 2 بلوك 10) ثنائية المقاعد T54

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رد: القوات الجوية تستعد للمشاركة في "العلم الأخضر" ببريطانيا

اي طائرتين تقصد ؟ لان طائرات ترانش 3A لم تسلم ولم تدخل الخدمة بعد في اي دولة واول طائرة مقرر ان تسلم في اخر السنة هذه 2013 او بداية 2014 لسلاح الجو البريطاني

طائرات التايفون البريطانية المشاركة بالتمرين هي

السرب 29
ZJ815/BN (ترانش 1 بلوك 5) ثانئية المقاعد T3
ZK306/BT (ترانش 2 بلوك 8 بي) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZK328/BS (ترانش 2 بلوك 10) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZK379/BB (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) ثنائية المقاعد T3
ZK380/BG (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) ثنائية المقاعد T3

السرب 11
ZJ912/DR (ترانش 1 بلوك 5) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZJ931/DA (ترانش 1 بلوك 5) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZK305/DE (ترانش 2 بلوك 8 بي) احادية المقاعد FGR4
ZK323/DN (ترانش 2 بلوك 10) احادية المقاعد FGR4

السرب 3
ZK309/QO-P (ترانش 2 بلوك 8 بي) احادية المقاعد FGR4


اما طائرات التايفون السعودية فهي (من السرب الثالث)

310 (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) احادية المقاعد FGR5
312 (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) احادية المقاعد FGR5
313 (ترانش 2 بلوك 9) احادية المقاعد FGR5
322 (ترانش 2 بلوك 10) ثنائية المقاعد T54

أقصد الطائرات ZK379/BB و ZK380/BG

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أقصد الطائرات ZK379/BB و ZK380/BG

هذه ترانش 2 بلوك 9 ثنائية المقاعد

اتوقع ان سبب الخلط هو الرمز T3 ,, وهذا الرمز لا يرمز لل Tranche 3 بل هو ترميز للتايفون التدريبية ذات المقعدين

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هذه ترانش 2 بلوك 9 ثنائية المقاعد

اتوقع ان سبب الخلط هو الرمز T3 ,, وهذا الرمز لا يرمز لل Tranche 3 بل هو ترميز للتايفون التدريبية ذات المقعدين

نعم t3 خربطني,, حتى المصدر البريطاني يخربط وما وصفها بطائرات تدريب ,,, شكرا على التوضيح

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نعم t3 خربطني,, حتى المصدر البريطاني يخربط وما وصفها بطائرات تدريب ,,, شكرا على التوضيح

العفو اخوي
المصادر البريطانية وحتى الاوروبية معروف لديهم الرمزين للتايفون (T1,T3) تعني طائرات تدريبية بمقعدين , والحرف T من كلمة Trainer لذلك لن تجد اي اشارة منهم على انها بمقعدين لان هذا الرمز متعارف لديهم , اما الرمز FGR4 فمعناها تايفون مقاتلة بمقعد واحد

اما الطائرات السعودية فأخذت الرمز FGR5 للتايفون المقاتلة (احادية المقاعد) والرمز T54 للتايفون التدريبية (ذات مقعدين)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhAeBlQh85k

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مع ان جميع طائرات التايفون السعودية المشاركة هي ضمن السرب الثالث
لكن الأطقم من السرب العاشر كانت ايضا مشاركة

The RSAF Typhoons were flown by crews from 10 Squadron for the duration of the Exercise.

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تقرير مجلة AirForces monthly عدد November 2013 عن التمرين

EXERCISE REPORT SAUDI GREEN FLAG 2013

We’re Flying Tornado in the same role as the RAF, in air-to ground
missions, and the Typhoon in air-to-air, again like
the RAF. We’re combining the two platforms together

MORE THAN six years ago, in
August 2007, RAF Lossiemouth
in Moray played host to Panavia
Tornado aircraft and personnel
from the Royal Saudi Air Force
(RSAF – al-Quwwat al-Jawwiya
al-Malakiya as Sa’udiya) as part
of Exercise Saudi Green Flag. On
that occasion eight Tornado IDSs
from 75 Squadron based at Dharan
Air Base (AB) deployed to the UK
along with supporting Lockheed
C-130 Hercules transporters.
Fast-forward to 2013 and a lot has
changed for Exercise Saudi British
Green Flag, held at RAF Coningsby
in Lincolnshire between September
2 and 13. This time the Saudi
hardware comprised Eurofighter
Typhoons as well as Tornados. The
latter again came from Dharan’s
King Abdul Aziz AB, but instead
of the desert camouflage worn
in 2007, today’s Tornados are
painted in a similar grey to that of
their RAF counterparts. Another
change has been the painting of
the words ‘God Bless You’ in both
Arabic and English underneath
the cockpit, a feature of all Saudi
aircraft now. No Typhoons
participated in ‘Saudi Green Flag
07’ for a very good reason – the
first jet wasn’t delivered to the
Kingdom until two years later.
The first Saudi Typhoon pilots
and engineers received part of
their training at RAF Coningsby
with the RAF’s 29(R) Squadron
under Project Salam. The leader
of the Saudi detachment for this
year’s exercise, Brigadier General
Mohammed Al-Shahrani, was the
first man to qualify at Coningsby
under that programme. Before
moving to Typhoon the general
had flown both Tornados and
Boeing F-15 Eagles. It was during
his stay in the UK that he struck
up a lasting friendship with Group
Captain Johnny Stringer, a fighter
pilot through and through, who
is one of those privileged to fly
Spitfires and Hurricanes with the
Battle of Britain Memorial Flight
from Coningsby. Gp Capt Stringer
has been Officer Commanding RAF
Coningsby since October 19, 2012.
The exercise, which had been
in the planning for around
ten months, was a massive
logistical challenge – testing the
organisational and planning
skills of the RSAF to the limit.

Moving eight combat aircraft
of two different types and
capabilities – Typhoon pilots
prefer to fly much higher than the
Tornados – was no easy task. The
aeroplanes are useless without
their support infrastructure. As in
2007, C-130s provided some of the
airlift capability, four of the type
making repeated flights to and
from the Kingdom to Coningsby.
Like its RAF colleagues, the RSAF
is in the process of integrating the
first three of an eventual six Airbus
Military A330MRTTs (Multi-Role
Tanker Transport) into its fleet
and Exercise Green Flag saw
them used for the first
time in an overseas
deployment or
‘trail’. It’s more
than 3,000
miles
(4,800km) from Saudi Arabia to the
UK, but because of the A330MRTT’s
remarkable refuelling and carrying
capacity all four Typhoons were
able to make the journey in one
leg. The MRTTs meanwhile were
also able to carry more than 200
Saudi military personnel and their
equipment: remarkably, the first
two of the type were not accepted
into Saudi service until last
February and the third jet did not
arrive in the Kingdom until June 25!
Gp Capt Stringer explained: “For
Coningsby and for the RAF this
is a hugely significant exercise,
giving the opportunity to fly the
same aircraft types with our RSAF
friends and to share our tactical
thinking and our mutual thoughts
on how we employ our platforms.”
He said another challenge was for
Coningsby to support a detachment
from a fellow air force, adding
that success could be defined in
a number of ways. The fighter
pilots, engineers, fighter controllers
and the other people the RSAF
deployed to the UK will understand
and know each other a little bit
better; and that “if we ever had
to go and fly and fight alongside
each other for real, then at the
end of this two-week exercise
we have the confidence in each
other that we’re able to do that”.

The group captain explained there
was a lot more to the exercise than
just the fast jets at Coningsby. “We
have embedded RSAF personnel
with our GCI [ground controlled
intercept] personnel up at Boulmer;
we also have them supporting
the ‘White Force’, the exercise
directing staff. We have RSAF
TAC-Ps [tactical air control parties]
training as well. I think you can see
from that breadth that this is more
than just flying some aircraft – it
is a significant engagement.”
General Al-Shahrani pointed
out: “This is the first time for
us to deploy Typhoon for a long
period outside our Kingdom and
that means we’re stretching our
logistics support over 3,000 miles
[4,800km], which is very important
for us. Also it’s the first time for us
to use the Airbus MRTT for trailing
[providing air-to-air refuelling and
logistical support for a deployment
of fast jets] from Saudi Arabia,
which has proved very successful
in this exercise. Those are the two
most important things for us.”
Talking about the Typhoon
element of the deployment, he
said: “It was a one-shot for us
from Saudi Arabia to Coningsby,
refuelling three times. That was
good enough for us to test the
system and the trail. All our logistic
support was delivered by C-130s,
but we used the MRTT too [for]
our main party of personnel to
the UK. That was a big test for the
MRTT and proved the worth of
buying the aircraft. I’m sure the
RAF agrees with us on such aircraft
as the MRTT.” The RSAF’s MRTTs
are essentially the same aircraft
as the Voyagers being introduced
into service with the RAF.
Asked whether there were any
lessons to be learned for the RAF by
the Typhoon trail, Gp Capt Stringer
said: “The service has for decades
done trails over a significant
distance… you’ve had a number
of aircraft deployed from the
Kingdom to here with a significant
amount of gas left at the end of it
and a lot of people on board. It’s
not a lesson, but what it does give
is confidence, if we needed it, that
the A330 is a good aircraft and it’s a
very competent platform to deploy
force at range quickly. It was superb
to see the aircraft arrive, all of
them, on finals as planned. A very
well-executed trail by the RSAF.”
Much of the nitty-gritty of the
exercise is, understandably,
classified, but General
Al-Shahrani told AFM: “We’re
flying Tornado in the same role
as the RAF, in air-to-ground
missions, and the Typhoon in
air-to-air, again like the RAF.
We’re combining the two
platforms together.” Gp Capt
Stringer elaborated: “Initially,
the very first flying serials
[flights] were familiarisation,
which is exactly what we
do when we deploy to other
countries; then some that
were specific to individual aircraft
roles… but we’re looking to build
onto that and actually run COMAO
[combined air operations] missions
so that, as the general was saying,
we integrate UK and Saudi Tornado
and Typhoon with an increasing
level of complexity in the mission.
Some of the support we’re drawing
on – as well as the GCI – is UK E-3,
Cobham Aviation supporting with
its DA20 and also 100 Squadron
providing ‘Red Air’ assets, so they’re
quite developed missions.”

Gp Capt Stringer was then
asked if it was a campaign-based
exercise, or were disparate
scenarios played out each day?
“There is intelligence support
to the serials, but we reset
the scenarios to get what we
want out of that particular
mission.” General Al-Shahrani
added: “We are using the
ranges in the UK… like the EW
[the RAF’s electronic warfare
range at RAF Spadeadam,
Cumbria] range,” and revealed
there are plans to build a similar
facility in Saudi Arabia.
The group captain emphasised
that all UK airspace had been
“opened up for this exercise” and
explained that Coningsby-based
3(F) Squadron was the lead Typhoon
unit for the exercise while the
Tornado complement comprised
crews from RAF Marham’s II(AC)
and 31 Squadrons. General
Al-Shahrani was asked if the
British weather had posed any
problems (although this had been
the sunniest, warmest summer
for many years, the second week
of the exercise saw rain and
high winds): he explained that
although the RSAF trained to fly
and fight in all weathers, and both
aircraft types are optimised for
all weather operations, care was
being taken during the exercise
not to compromise safety. Gp
Capt Stringer pointed out: “In
Typhoon you just fly above the
weather” – to which the general
replied: “Way above the weather!”
Talking about the experience level
of his crews, the general said: “With
an opportunity like this we usually
try to bring an assortment, but for
the first deployment of Typhoon I
picked high to medium-experience
crews to make sure that they will
do it right. For Tornado, it’s the
second time for them to deploy to
the UK – and they have experienced
and, not inexperienced but perhaps
lower experience, crews. When the
crews return home they will spread
the knowledge they have gained to
their colleagues on the squadrons.”
Gp Capt Stringer added:
“Without making a trite sound
bite, it’s not only how you fly, but
it’s how you think as well. So in
exercises like this, sharing that
experience, sharing your thinking,
are fundamental to growing
your overall capability and your
approach to your business. That’s
true of aircrew, engineers and
everybody involved. There is
so much that is generated well
beyond a spreadsheet; the fact
we have our engineers engaging
on a daily basis, that our aircrew
from met [meteorological briefing]
through to planning, execution
and debrief are chatting about it
afterwards – you can’t render that
as a teaching package, you only get
those benefits by getting people
together in the same place.”
Both leaders would be delighted
if there was a similar exchange
in the other direction, with RAF
Tornados and Typhoons deploying
to Saudi Arabia, but as they
said, that is not their decision!

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التموية الي على الجنود مو حق البرية ؟؟
لماذا لا يرتدون تموية الجوية الازرق ؟؟

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ياجماعة العلم الاخضر شاركنا فيه بالتايفون والتورنيدو
والان كيف يعني نشارك مرة ثانية
والعلم الاحمر متى

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بالتوفيق لصقورنا الخضر

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يوجد تمرينين باسم العلم الاخضر
العلم الاخضر البريطاني وشاركنا بالتايفون والتورنيدو
والعلم الاخضر\الاحمر الامريكي وبتكون المشاركة بال ف-15 S

تمرينين لكن في موضوع واحد !!

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تمرينين لكن في موضوع واحد !!

صدقت اخي
يبدوا ان احد المشرفين قام بدمج تمرين العلم الاحمر\الاخضر (الامريكي) في موضوع تمرين العلم الاخضر (البريطاني)
فابتداءاً من المشاركة رقم (325) وما بعدها فهي خاصة لتمرين العلم الاحمر\الاخضر (الامريكي) وقد تم دمجه مع الموضوع الاصلي لتمرين العلم الاخضر (البريطاني)

براي الا يتم هذا الدمج حتى لا يسبب لبس على القراء والاعضاء المتابعين للتمرينين المختلفين ويبقى كل تمرين في موضوع منفصل عن الآخر

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